{"id":3672,"date":"2020-06-20T08:23:16","date_gmt":"2020-06-20T12:23:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alkemi.org\/blog\/?p=3672"},"modified":"2020-06-20T08:25:22","modified_gmt":"2020-06-20T12:25:22","slug":"plus-ca-change","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/alkemi.org\/blog\/?p=3672","title":{"rendered":"Plus \u00c3\u00a7a change&#8230;."},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>&#8230;.Zhora being Zhora, she once again has taught me something about dog breeding. (content warning: if you are squeamish about discussion of dog body parts, maybe skip this post)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Around two weeks ago I noticed she looked like she was coming into season, so I started blotting her twice a day so I could catch and note the day she actually started (a dog&#8217;s vulva swells when they are coming into season, and generally &#8220;day 1&#8221; is considered the first day you see a bloody discharge). Knowing when the season starts is important, because you generally start progesterone testing 5-7 days after the first blood is seen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>She was licking herself a lot, the other dogs were interested in her nether regions, and I kept blotting and blotting and finding&#8230;nothing. There was one day I thought there was maaaaybe a tiny vaguely pinkish tinge on the paper, and I thought &#8220;any day now!&#8221;. I put Ollie&#8217;s owner Kat on alert that we were getting close (this was to be attempt #2 at Ollie x Zhora). And then&#8230;nothing&#8230;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My only excuse for not thinking faster is that there&#8217;s a global pandemic and NOTHING is normal about ANYTHING right now. But I kept thinking &#8220;maybe I should run a progesterone on her&#8221;. So I did on Tuesday. And she was at 17.9 already! I emailed and called my awesome repro vet&#8217;s office, the awesome tech Renee (the one who saved Cora) emailed me and then called me right away. She said it would be a hail Mary for sure, it wasn&#8217;t impossible but it was likely that if she did conceive, it would be a tiny litter (raising a singleton puppy is a huge headache and almost worse than having no puppies sometimes). I asked about trying again and she asked what the breed&#8217;s lifespan was, and when I told her Zhora&#8217;s grandfather was nearly 17, she said it was worth a try, might be a smaller litter but wasn&#8217;t impossible. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Of course I posted on the wonderful repro group on Facebook, and several people said they&#8217;d had large litters with progesterone up to 30, so I frantically messaged Kat, started getting myself sorted out to tear ass to meet her on the Thruway, but then my repro vet said &#8220;progesterone level on the day of breeding is irrelevant. Days after ovulation is what\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s important when determining fertile period. Identifying day of ovulation requires documenting a rise in progesterone beyond 4-8ng\/ml\u00c2\u00a0with ideally at least a 2ng surge\/jump over a 24 hour period. Remember that while the average bitch may end up about 18ng\/mL on about day 3 post ovulation, one cannot expect that every bitch at 18 is on day 3. In fact, many bitches will stay below 10-15 throughout an entire pregnancy. With having only one level available it is impossible to determine days post ovulation. We can only determine that she did in fact ovulate. Now, as a breeder, if a particular breeding is critical and the stud dog is available then there\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s no reason not to try &#8211; and there is a chance for a normal litter. However, one must be prepared for a miss or a very small litter (ie singleton) if the bitch is near the end of the window and allocate resources accordingly. Hope this helps clarify some things..&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So now, <a href=\"http:\/\/alkemi.org\/litters_ollie_alice.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">the D litter will be Ollie x Alice<\/a>. Given Zhora&#8217;s history of not being the easiest dog to breed, the thought of going through all that panic and worry to have maaaaaybe one puppy&#8230;.just not worth it. I learned from my experience breeding Zhora that I far prefer how I did things with Nina: first litter at 2-3 years old. So that&#8217;s what we&#8217;ll do with Alice. She&#8217;s due to come into season in August, so now we wait&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>IF YOU HAVE CONTACTED ME ABOUT A PUPPY: please stay in touch! This litter should be bred in August and born in October if Alice follows the textbook (which Zhora has taught me isn&#8217;t always the case!).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(I VERY MUCH would like to co-own one or two puppies from this litter. If you might be interested in co-owning a puppy with me, ESPECIALLY if you are someone interested in showing or trialing your dog (agility, herding, obedience, I don&#8217;t care what), please <a href=\"mailto:amanda@alkemi.org\">email<\/a> me. I think I am quite reasonable with my co-own contract, but I&#8217;ve only done it once so far. On a co-own, your purchase price is lower, and basically the dog is yours except for breeding. The dog lives with you, I just borrow it occasionally. Anything breeding related is paid by me (including show and trial entries if they are shows\/trials I wish the dog to enter). The dog must stay intact until I determine its breeding\/showing career is over, at which point the dog is sterilized at my expense and signed over to you at no further cost to you.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8230;.Zhora being Zhora, she once again has taught me something about dog breeding. 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